docs ....i am very disappointed at the not very good response of treatments prescribed in our texts in almost all the cases of arthritis in comparison to allopathic medicines....advise
SORRY. IT APPEARS YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH ALLOPATHIC MEDICINES THAN AYURVEDIC. ITS NOT THE TREATMENTS GIVEN IN TEXTS BUT THE APPROACH OF THE PHYSICIAN TO THE DISEASE THAT IS NOT GOOD.
doctor, 1st u give ama shudhi medicine e.g hingvashtak churna/sitophaladi churna/avipattikar churna till pt digestive system become good. then give virechan,podikizhi swedan advice:- avoid oily, spicy, katu, tikta aahar. take light food,more water.
DEAR FRIEND, THE TREATMENT OF AMAVATA, SANDHIVATA HAS BEEN DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN OUR AYURVEDA TEXTS AND THE RESULTS ARE MARVELLOUS IHAVE TREATED MANY CASES OF AMAVATA BY OUR AYURVEDIC MEDICINES . ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE TEXT MADHAVA NIDANA AND SHARANGDHAR YOU WILL EXPERIENCE THE DIFFERENCE ALL THE BEST
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DEAR DR. WE ALWAYS GO TO THE SANHITAS AND SANSKRIT SLOKAS. CAN WE KNOW THE REAL PRACTICAL TREATMENT FOR THIS WHAT EARLIER DR. BAINS MARKED. MY QUERRY IS AF ANY SUBJECT HAS A PATHOLOGICAL TEST OF RA FCTR +TIVE WHAT WILL BE THE TREATMENT AND HOW . THERE ARE A LOT OF MED. IN AY. BUT CAN WE GET THE BEST PRACTICAL FROM YR. SIDE? DR. ANIL KUMAR NAYAK
Dear Dr.Bains, In ayurveda for Amavata classical treatments were mentioned by our Acharyas, line of treatment will be as follows; 1.SNEHAM--massage with medicated oils like,mahanarayana, bala, visagarbhataila; 2.SWEDAM;valuka swedam. 3.LEPAM: local application of medicated paste[Dasangalepam,] 4.ANULOMA; mild laxative treatment. 5.SHAMANA;oral medicines like awaghandharistam, Amavatariras, Ajamodha churnam, tribhuvan keerti ras.simhanadhaguggulu, Rasnaerandhadhi kashayam.
Hello Doctor, I have treated many cases of Arthritis; both osteo and rheumatoid with the help of medicines prescribed in our ancient texts. Firstly in any case, we should look for sam and niramavastha. After aampachan, we should follow the most common principle of vatavyadhi treatment ie.Bruhan chikitsa in krush patient and lekhan chikitsa in sthool patients. I am sure if you try to understand and have full faith in ancient teachings of our texts, surely you will get good results.
yes dr bains i m agree with u,this is not your fault,this is a fault of our system.because in ayurvedic colles of punjab they taught us modern sciences more..they taught us ayurveda aspect with co relation to allopathy.we dont know the basics of ayurveda..in our colleges u know our respected teachers have how much opd?and IPD?we have not seen proagnosis in patients with long term ayurveda treatment. so a new fresher of ayurveda curse ayurveda and its teachers and opt allopathy soon to get faster results. i m also an ayurvedic practitioner, i have to work very hard in fighting against the system,u should find a good ayurvedic physician and take lessons from him. also if u are not able to work withh a senior ayurvedacharya,then take some diseses study hard them,and become specialist of only some disease .u no need to ecxpertise of each and every diseses
thanx to all the ayurvda experts for their invaluable,highly analytical as well as some critical views..... these views must enlighten me in the long run.......
- massage with til tail or vishgarabh tail - formentation with herbs - lemonjuice and teaspoon of honey mixed in a cup of warm water. - castor oil with milk at bedtime before sleep - trifla gugglu - mahayograj gugglu - mahanarayan tail...
I have treated successfully Arthritis and arthritis related disorders with the help of electro tridosha graphy etg fingings of tridosha and disease diagnosis.You must understand that the fact is with this disorders that this disease condition is the reflection of other bodily disorders which patient have. First an ayurvedicians should try to find out the cause of the present disorders by history taking in chronological sequence and must try to understand the disease phenomenon why and how it is happening. in some case i have seen that psychological disturbances are responsibile to this disease conditions. so my submission is here that first you find out the cause of present disease condition. why you forget the saying that sankshepatah kriyayogo parivarjan that means remove the obstacle and cause of disease condition which is the treatment of the disorders.
I have treated successfully almost 98% of arthritis disorders with the help of Electro tridosha gram report findings which pinpointed to select the remedy and management accordingly.
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Respected Dr. Bajpai ji, Please elaborate Electro tridosha gram as i am not aware of this so your valuable guidance is required please reply me at - drashwanivashista@gmail.com
jai ayurved doctor still we r not in a position to comment on authenticity of our acharyas, it is our inability to assess the condition properly and dont expect miraculous results only with ayurveda, and no science in the world is complete, it is to complement the both the sciences as per the need, try to think from patient perspective than the purity of science
i completely agree with Dr. Aravind. Doc dont loose heart as u know RA is cyclic disorder & with change of season, it tends to get worse. patient at the end of the day just change docs & pathys. Doc here is what charak says the physician who applies his mind & works accordingly will succeed. amavata treatment- we hav to just go for ampachna...... when amras will not b dere there will b results..... Plus doc, do try a new therapy which is introduced by us in various cities. do contact me at 9815617567 4 details...
Dear dr, Its really a painful situation for me. An Ayurvedic dr passing comments on his own system.... that is 200% wrong/ false information/comment. Dont start treating the patient with an allopathic diagnosis. If you start like that , i am sure you are going to fail. INstead start examining the patient in ayurvedic terms(dasavidha pariksha). Go for dosha based treatment than diseased based treatment. #########For example, if pakshagatham patient has fever at present, treat for jwara, and not for pakshagatham . Hope you got my point###### ######## But in general start the treatment in this way & i had got a fairly good result 1.Rasnaerandadi ks +Kokilaksham Ks +chandraprabha vati 10ml each with 1 powered pill with warm water twice at empty stomach 2.Nimbamritaristam 30 ml twice after food 3.Dasamoolahareetakee 1 tsp at bedtime followed by a glass of warm water. ######## Be careful while starting external treatment. Dont apply oil. Start with dasamoola ks dhara on effected parts and decide the treatment by yukti
I am sure you wil be able to achieve desireble results with this..
Dear Dr Gurinder singh ji, Rather than going to the texts herewith i am giving you the treatment which have been quite effective in my patients : Rasaraj rasa 125mg+ Pravala Pisti 500mg+ godanti bhasma 500mg + Amruta sattva 500 mg + Nagradya curna 1 gm/1x2 with Amruta bhallataka 4gm BD followed by Rasna saptaka kwath 100 ml BD. Along with daily patra pinda sweda.
if its aamvata dr bains this is best managed in ayurveda only...but ofcourse if its old it will take time to control.in aamvata strict aahar vihar for aama...thn aama pachna thn snigdh nitya virechna wth ruksh swedna...thn go for any yog....this is v important if u wont follow n will strt with yogs n suwarn bhasam this tht..u can nt succeed...but really u can manage very well...bt needd to be very strict with diet...
dr i accept ur views v r not able to satisfy the patient with fever+all joints swelling pain,i too tried with many kasayas,gugglus,rasaausadas,swarna basma for 1 year. but in more cases patients suffers a lot,i think whatyou r prescribing in tablet form doesnt contain a sufficient dose, and also charaka has told if the disease is more than a year it is difficult to cure more patient come to us after loaded and fatigued with steriod s and nsaids.even good vaidyas told this as yapya and asadya.
faith in ayurveda. go for sidhdhanta and long time.
u will got success. admit the pt in yr hospital. treat very well according to siddhants. some times pt on opd treatment r not ready for pathya palan and nidan parivarjan. if u indoor him for 15 days and explain all treatment, the result will best.
treatment - 1- aambatari rasha 250mg,akangveer rasha 250mg,amrita sata 250mg,godanti bhasma 250mg.2 times daily with honey. 2-panchcol churn-5gm daily -7 days 3-singhnad guggulu 2 bd. 4-rashna saptak kada 20 ml daily. 5-precribed anulome bilome,kapalbhati,bhrastika, pranayama and asanas like markatasan,bhungaasan,sarbangaasan.
**treatment of rheumatoid arthritis consists of the following procedures: (i) "Snehan" (ii) "Swedan" (iii) "Lep" (iv) "Anuloman" (v) "Raktamokshan" (vi) "Dahan" and (vii) "Shaman". 1.Mahanarayan oil containing mainly Asparagus racemosus, Bala oil,Vishgarbha oil are some of the medications used for snehan procedures. 2."Naadi swedan" is the most effective.A decoction of Nirgundi is usually used for this procedure. 3.Local medicated applications include Lepgoli,Dashang lep, and a mixture of Shrung,Daruharidra, Alum,and Rakta Chandan. 4.Local pain can be immediately reduced by blood-letting,done by syringe or using leeches.About 50 ml. of blood is usually withdrawn from a vein near the affected joint. Castor oil and Haritaki treated with castor oil are used for mild,prolonged laxative treatment. 5.Oral medications include Maharasnadi decoction,Triphala Guggulu,Yograj Guggulu and Ashwagandharishta. Shallaki and Guggulu compounds are given for prolonged periods.
**Amavata" is a joint disorder which affects multiple joints and various sites.'Ama' means toxic which is produced in the body due to weakening of digestive fire- Jataragni.This 'Ama' is then carried by 'Vayu' and travels throughout the body and accumulate in the joints,which is the seat of 'Kapha' As this process continuous,all the joints are gradually affected,which results in severe pain and swelling in the joints. When 'Pitta' also gets aggravated,it causes burning sensation around the joints. **Treatment: 1.Diet:Vegetarian food to be consumed.Dairy products,sweets,oily foods,junk and fast foods,salty and sour foods,jaggery,black gram,fish,cold drinks and ice creams are to be avoided. 2.Life style- One should avoid cold breeze and excessive wind.Warm water bath is recommended.Take a gentle walk after consumption of food. 3.Medicines:Guggulu is the most effective drug in treating 'Amavata'. Also herbal preparations of Ashwagandha,Haritaki, Rasna,Sunthi,Pippai and Trivrut are helpful. 4.Panchakarma Therapy: *Snehana:as a preliminary process. *Swedana:It helps in reducing inflammatory conditions in the body. *Virechana: By the process of Virechana, the 'Ama' is eliminated from the body.Also the bowel is cleansed, which results in absorption and assimilation of the medicinal preparations properly. *Vasti:This is done by administration of herbal enema.It is helpful in chronic cases
Its our fault to start treatment of RA. Its mandatory to diagnose the patient with ayurveda-ama vata,sandhi vata,vata rakta & so on... In ayurveda first line of treatment in joint diseases in ama pachan.what happen is some time we think that that patient is suffering from this disease from many years so there is no ama.this is our biggest mistake to start with.In each and every case give ama pachana with amrutharishtam +ajmodadi ch/shad dharna ch.within week u will some results.further u can move according to doshas. And the plus point in ayurveda is,we have vasthi chikitsa which is supposed to be complete treatment for vata vyadhis.it really works wonderfully like brahmastra....this is the power of true ayurveda !!!!
1) all types of arthritis r considered as sandhigata vata as ayurveda science . 2) the real treatment depends upon the sama vata or nirama vata . 3) u have to pick the exact one & treat accordingly , as the treatments in both is mostly opposite . 4) use of basti , various guggulus , vatahar quath some exercise will ensure better results than allopathy . 5) allopathy treatment for arthritis is like the cap of the inflatable bottle which will explode anytime . the sufferer always looks at the closed bottle of the cap & gets satisfied him / herself avoiding to see the inflatable bottle underneath .
pl. not compair Ayurved to other. treatment of r.a. is only in ayurved. this is long term treatment. pl. you should try ayurvedic medicines patiencly, R. compound tab ,sinhnad guggulu ,aamvatari ras, punch col churna, dashmoola quath with caster oil, sanjivni vati, agnitundi vati, ajmodadi churna, rasnadi guggulu, ashwagandharishta, balarishta,etc. Basti chikitsa is very benefacial in this.
The current trend in treating RA according to allopathy is following DMARDs like chloroquin. There is no reliable treatment there. However if treated in early stages, Aamvata is very much manageable through ayurveda. Depending on basic diagnostic principles of ayurveda, drugs like ajamoda churna, amritarista, tribhuvan keerti rasa, amrita swarasa etc. can be selected. Basic diagnosis as per ayurvedic principles is very essential
it is because you havent read and practiced ayurveda properly. go and practice under a good vaidya and learn before you pass such stupid comments on ayurveda doctor. and you compare it with allopathy which doesnt have any treatment for that matter. just painkillers and steriods?? or max joint replacement!! please go through amavata and vata raktha chapters throughtly.
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